Index du Forum


Le Forum garanti sans casse-pieds, avec de vrais morceaux d'intelligence dedans...

 FAQFAQ   RechercherRechercher   MembresMembres   GroupesGroupes   S’enregistrerS’enregistrer 
 ProfilProfil   Se connecter pour vérifier ses messages privésSe connecter pour vérifier ses messages privés   ConnexionConnexion 

Ah, l'Arabie Séoudite ...

 
Poster un nouveau sujet   Répondre au sujet     Index du Forum -> Les Hors-sujets intéressants -> Hors-sujets libres...
Sujet précédent :: Sujet suivant  
Auteur Message
MengWan


Hors ligne

Inscrit le: 14 Oct 2007
Messages: 2 859
Localisation: Nulle part

MessagePosté le: Lun 17 Déc - 23:18 (2007)    Sujet du message: Ah, l'Arabie Séoudite ... Répondre en citant

Qui disait que dans ce pays les femmes étaient "mal-vues" (car voilées) et n'avaient que le droit de se taire ?

On y pardonne même les femmes violées !


Saudi King Abdullah spares rape victim from lashes
(Altaf Qadri)
King Abdullah issued the pardon as millions gathered for the Muslim pilgrimage, Haj

Michael Theodoulou of The Times in Nicosia

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has pardoned a teenage victim of a gang rape who was sentenced to 200 lashes and jailed for six months in a highly-publicised case that inflicted incalculable damage on the country’s image.

The intercession by the octogenarian monarch, a respected ruler and cautious reformer, came on the first day of the haj and as millions of Muslim pilgrims in Saudi Arabia prepare to celebrate the Eid al-Adha festival, which begins tomorrow. It is traditionally a time for royal pardons.

Abdullah bin Mohammad al-Sheikh, the Saudi Justice Minister, said the King had the right to issue pardons if it was in the “public interest”.

The decision was also based on the girl’s welfare. “The King always looks into alleviating the suffering of the citizens when he becomes sure that these verdicts will leave psychological effects on the convicted people, though he is convinced and sure that the verdicts were fair,” the justice minister said.

Saudi Arabia had bristled at international criticism of the case and rejected “foreign interference”. The White House had called the Saudi court ruling “outrageous”; Canada labelled the girl’s punishment “barbaric”.

But even leading Saudis had made clear their embarrassment and disquiet at the court ruling. Many commentators in the kingdom’s increasingly outspoken press had condemned as “shameful” the judgment that treated the victim as a culprit.

Human rights activists at home and abroad believe the furor could now empower voices for change in the Kingdom’s Islamic courts.

The woman, aged 18 at the time, was attacked last year when she met a high school friend in his car to retrieve a picture of herself from him because she had recently married. Two men, armed with knives, got into their car and drove to a secluded spot where five others waited. The woman and her companion were then both raped.

Despite her harrowing ordeal, the girl was punished because she had been alone in a car with a man who was not her relative. Women in the austere desert kingdom are forbidden to be alone with men who are not close family members.

The woman, who is from the Kingdom’s Shia Muslim minority and has been identified only as the “Qatif Girl” after her hometown, was initially sentenced to 90 lashes. When she appealed, the court ruled that her punishment should be raised to 200 lashes and a six-month jail term. The judges reportedly decided to increase the penalties because of “her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media”.

The woman’s companion was sentenced to 90 lashes. It is not known if his sentence was also lifted.

The Qatif Girl has tried to take her life several times since the rape, according to her lawyer, who has taken on several other high-profile cases and received death threats. The court has revoked his licence and he has been summoned before a disciplinary panel.

The rapists were initially sentenced to one to five years in jail, but their terms were also increased in November to between two and nine years. A rape conviction carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia but the court did not impose it because of the “lack of witnesses” and the “absence of confessions”. One international human rights group claims the judges ignored a mobile phone video taken by one of the men during the assault.

In what was seen as a challenge to conservative clerics who run the courts, Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Foreign Minister, said last month that the Saudi judiciary would review the case. “What is outraging about this case is that it is being used against the Saudi government and people,” he said.

Fawziya al-Oyouni, a woman’s rights activist, welcomed the Qatif Girl’s pardon, but said more was needed. “We don’t want to rely simply on pardons. We need harsher sentences for the guilty parties and we want to feel safe,” she said, citing another rape case this month.

King Abdullah issued a decree in October for ambitious reforms in the court system, including the establishment of a Supreme Court and commercial, personal status and labour tribunals in an attempt to make the often random system more regulated. But the deeply conservative clerical hierarchy has been resistant.

The King’s pardon of the Qatif Girl provoked a swift response on some conservative websites, with critics claiming he had breached religious rules to assuage Western public opinion.

The courts in Saudi are all Islamic and run by clerics following the kingdom’s strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam, but with no written code. “It’s left to the judge to decide the punishment he sees, which leads to contradictions,” a Saudi commentator wrote recently.
Revenir en haut
Publicité






MessagePosté le: Lun 17 Déc - 23:18 (2007)    Sujet du message: Publicité

PublicitéSupprimer les publicités ?
Revenir en haut
Mong Huong


Hors ligne

Inscrit le: 21 Nov 2007
Messages: 55
Localisation: Antarès

MessagePosté le: Mar 18 Déc - 00:44 (2007)    Sujet du message: Re: Ah, l'Arabie Séoudite ... Répondre en citant

MengWan a écrit:
Qui disait que dans ce pays les femmes étaient "mal-vues" (car voilées) et n'avaient que le droit de se taire ?

On y pardonne même les femmes violées !


Saudi King Abdullah spares rape victim from lashes
(Altaf Qadri)
King Abdullah issued the pardon as millions gathered for the Muslim pilgrimage, Haj

Michael Theodoulou of The Times in Nicosia

King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia has pardoned a teenage victim of a gang rape who was sentenced to 200 lashes and jailed for six months in a highly-publicised case that inflicted incalculable damage on the country’s image.

The intercession by the octogenarian monarch, a respected ruler and cautious reformer, came on the first day of the haj and as millions of Muslim pilgrims in Saudi Arabia prepare to celebrate the Eid al-Adha festival, which begins tomorrow. It is traditionally a time for royal pardons.

Abdullah bin Mohammad al-Sheikh, the Saudi Justice Minister, said the King had the right to issue pardons if it was in the “public interest”.

The decision was also based on the girl’s welfare. “The King always looks into alleviating the suffering of the citizens when he becomes sure that these verdicts will leave psychological effects on the convicted people, though he is convinced and sure that the verdicts were fair,” the justice minister said.

Saudi Arabia had bristled at international criticism of the case and rejected “foreign interference”. The White House had called the Saudi court ruling “outrageous”; Canada labelled the girl’s punishment “barbaric”.

But even leading Saudis had made clear their embarrassment and disquiet at the court ruling. Many commentators in the kingdom’s increasingly outspoken press had condemned as “shameful” the judgment that treated the victim as a culprit.

Human rights activists at home and abroad believe the furor could now empower voices for change in the Kingdom’s Islamic courts.

The woman, aged 18 at the time, was attacked last year when she met a high school friend in his car to retrieve a picture of herself from him because she had recently married. Two men, armed with knives, got into their car and drove to a secluded spot where five others waited. The woman and her companion were then both raped.

Despite her harrowing ordeal, the girl was punished because she had been alone in a car with a man who was not her relative. Women in the austere desert kingdom are forbidden to be alone with men who are not close family members.

The woman, who is from the Kingdom’s Shia Muslim minority and has been identified only as the “Qatif Girl” after her hometown, was initially sentenced to 90 lashes. When she appealed, the court ruled that her punishment should be raised to 200 lashes and a six-month jail term. The judges reportedly decided to increase the penalties because of “her attempt to aggravate and influence the judiciary through the media”.

The woman’s companion was sentenced to 90 lashes. It is not known if his sentence was also lifted.

The Qatif Girl has tried to take her life several times since the rape, according to her lawyer, who has taken on several other high-profile cases and received death threats. The court has revoked his licence and he has been summoned before a disciplinary panel.

The rapists were initially sentenced to one to five years in jail, but their terms were also increased in November to between two and nine years. A rape conviction carries the death penalty in Saudi Arabia but the court did not impose it because of the “lack of witnesses” and the “absence of confessions”. One international human rights group claims the judges ignored a mobile phone video taken by one of the men during the assault.

In what was seen as a challenge to conservative clerics who run the courts, Prince Saud al-Faisal, the Foreign Minister, said last month that the Saudi judiciary would review the case. “What is outraging about this case is that it is being used against the Saudi government and people,” he said.

Fawziya al-Oyouni, a woman’s rights activist, welcomed the Qatif Girl’s pardon, but said more was needed. “We don’t want to rely simply on pardons. We need harsher sentences for the guilty parties and we want to feel safe,” she said, citing another rape case this month.

King Abdullah issued a decree in October for ambitious reforms in the court system, including the establishment of a Supreme Court and commercial, personal status and labour tribunals in an attempt to make the often random system more regulated. But the deeply conservative clerical hierarchy has been resistant.

The King’s pardon of the Qatif Girl provoked a swift response on some conservative websites, with critics claiming he had breached religious rules to assuage Western public opinion.

The courts in Saudi are all Islamic and run by clerics following the kingdom’s strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam, but with no written code. “It’s left to the judge to decide the punishment he sees, which leads to contradictions,” a Saudi commentator wrote recently.

C'est abominable cette histoire ! une jeune femme de 18 ans condamnée à 200 coups de fouet, 6 mois de prison pour avoir été violée par sept personnes.
Au début, c'était 90 coups, et quand elle fait appel, ça a augmenté à 200.

La raison de cette condamnation c'est parce qu'elle s'est retrouvée seule dans une voiture avec un ami pour récupérer une photo.

Le roi en lui pardonnant a dû se mettre à dos tous les conservateurs.

Je suis contente d'être une femme en France...
Revenir en haut
MengWan


Hors ligne

Inscrit le: 14 Oct 2007
Messages: 2 859
Localisation: Nulle part

MessagePosté le: Mar 18 Déc - 00:52 (2007)    Sujet du message: Ah, l'Arabie Séoudite ... Répondre en citant

Je suis sûr que, lorsque ce bon roi viendra à Paris, personne ne fera autant de bruit que pour Kadhafi ...
Revenir en haut
Contenu Sponsorisé






MessagePosté le: Aujourd’hui à 06:05 (2016)    Sujet du message: Ah, l'Arabie Séoudite ...

Revenir en haut
Montrer les messages depuis:   
Poster un nouveau sujet   Répondre au sujet     Index du Forum -> Les Hors-sujets intéressants -> Hors-sujets libres... Toutes les heures sont au format GMT + 2 Heures
Page 1 sur 1

 
Sauter vers:  

Portail | Index | Panneau d’administration | creer un forum | Forum gratuit d’entraide | Annuaire des forums gratuits | Signaler une violation | Conditions générales d'utilisation
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
Traduction par : phpBB-fr.com